Looking to Unhinge CBDC's in Jamaica with Bobo Dread

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Bobo dread welcome to the Bitcoin Source

can we start off this amazing episode I'm super excited can we start this off by having you introduce yourself to the

world into the audience yeah man um I'm Dred I'm from Jamaica I would love to say that first but I'm also a

bitcoiner a technologist and just try to educate people

um from Jamaica and all around the world about about Bitcoin um I've been traveling a lot and that's

kind of what I'm known for but for the most part just think of me as the Jamaican juror that actually knows

um what Bitcoin is yes thank you dread for that introduction and you know I

told you this off air but like I'm super excited to actually speak to you because I've seen you do so many things in the

space with Gary Leland some of the other podcast circuits that you've kind of gone on and I've listened to your story

and I just think it's so inspirational to see someone that's coming from an international country in the Caribbean

be able to Orange kill people teach people about Bitcoin and kind of educate their community so I wanted to thank you

before we start things off for you know doing your part in the Bitcoin ecosystem I appreciate it no problem man I mean

I'm doing just what you're doing you know just trying to spread the word so nothing but love yes sir uh so dread

um the first thing I wanted to ask you was you know which is kind of the title of this podcast which is called the Bitcoin Source I kind of want to know

where did you Source your Bitcoin knowledge how did you get started your humble beginnings whether that be Jamaica or somewhere else like what kind

of got you interested in Bitcoin and what kind of inspired you to continue to keep learning about it yeah I guess

you're asking to Robin whole question right um so I guess we started off by saying that my

my entire family is a family of Engineers so I kind of have that first principles thinking and I'm just kind of

spread into me which is I'm realizing less and less common than I thought it was

but it's kind of helped trigger a lot of other events in life to happen I

I've kind of been a consummate entrepreneur for the majority of my life um a consummate competitor I could track

professionally and then I did technology Consulting in the US from from 18 to 20

years now I've been a technology consultant worked for a couple big firms and then started my own firm uh seven

figure firm that I had a boutique firm in California for a couple years so I've been in that technology track for a long

time so I guess that's kind of where I stepped into Bitcoin when I saw it the first time I saw it was in 2013 and it

was kind of just play money at the time you know people were sending money to Japan and I was like nah I'm good

uh but then again in 2017 when the price was going up I was one of those numbers

go up tab guys where I just thought thought that oh maybe this is a way that I can make money because

honestly even if you're making six figures in the US as a consultant there

are times you can still feel like you're living paycheck to paycheck you know that inflation does make you feel like

you have to keep on finding different ways to earn money so of course everybody that sees the number going up

on some random asset is going to be like okay maybe I can get in on that so of course my curiosity

um led me to buy some led me to buy some cryptocurrency that wasn't Bitcoin as well we call it coins and

um at first I was making some profit you know I thought I was on top of the world I figured out something new that most of

the world didn't know yet and then probably in the beginning of 2018 I lost

all of it and actually wasn't a negative because I leveraged a little bit so that was a hard lesson to learn but I put

back on my engineer hat and I said why did I lose that money like what didn't I understand about it that I thought I did

in the beginning and that led me down a deep like path of of um education

honestly it all felt like I was getting a PhD now in the history of

cryptocurrency going back to the fact that Bitcoin was the first cryptocurrency

and then it led me down a deeper path of understanding why Bitcoin as a currency has almost nothing to do with all the

other cryptocurrencies the digital asset derivatives out there they're just clones and different things that are

trying to mimic what is actually a real cryptocurrency once I figured that out then the knowledge was was just fun at

that point you know I was learning about the the um Austrian economics about it the thermodynamics about mining the um

the game theory about the pricing mechanisms and difficulty adjustments and and then the code because I'm a

technologist so just watching C plus plus code be used in this way was amazing to me so I just went all the way

down I mean I'm still falling down the rabbit hole but that's kind of where I I realized that now this is not about

making money this is about um not just fixing the money but also

enabling freedom for a lot of people that I thought were just stuck and would never be able to get out of the

situation that they're in just because of the way way that the Glo the geopolitical environment is certain

people in certain countries have no chance of leaving that country and now we have a tool that is a globally

recognized and Unstoppable tool that can help them to either better their life where they are or provide an escape

valve where they can leave the country without needing to have anything on them except words in their head that was

mind-blowing to me and from that point forward I didn't care about the price I didn't care about price is nice right

when it goes up but that was no longer my motivation not my motivation was was learning as much

as I could and educating as much as I could to have people use this tool and now I'm on the path of building as much

as I can to help this thing grow into what it can be because Bitcoin to me is

still very nascent and as it evolves as a monetary asset I want to be there to

to make sure that my people that our people can benefit as much as possible and it's not an outsized benefit in one

in one group or another that was a long answer but yeah it's pretty much where I am and how I got

here perfect dread you know that that answer just kind of solidifies a lot of the stuff that I know about you just

from your online presence but of course you having that engineering background always makes things a lot easier and you

mentioned something in that conversation or that answer you just gave better yet where you talked about Bitcoin being a

tool that goes beyond borders right it goes beyond your local community or your

state or your Province or your parish and I know that you're a proud Jamaican

and I would love to know you know what is the temperature of Bitcoin in Jamaica for example you know what is like or

accessible way for Jamaicans to save money uh using Bitcoin if there are those options out there right now

uh I'm glad you asked um oh probably shouldn't get too much into what I have

going on yet but I will in a second but um in Jamaica the temperature of Bitcoin

is very skeptical still um just like many other developing nations when cryptocurrency was first uh

proliferated around the text spaces and then even outside of that in terms of casual investors a lot of people got

scammed right a lot of a lot of fake coins and cryptocurrencies that weren't going anywhere were out there on the

market being sold for pennies on the dollar and people thought they were getting good deals but they ended up losing a lot of money that happened in

Jamaica as well so a lot of people were very skeptical about what you wanted to

learn what it is you know if you tell them Bitcoin and they hear cryptocurrency they're like ah I'm good

and Jamaica's also known for well not Jamaica specifically but

certain parts of Jamaica are known for having um groups of people that scam if people

are heard of the lotto scam um industry where people would call and and trick older generational people to

give them money over the phone so there's a there's a very high level of skepticism for anything new honestly but

specifically for technology because Jamaica is also a little bit behind in

terms of how they would use technology on the corporate level on personal level we don't have fintech apps per se

there's no such thing as a cash app or venmo in Jamaica so all of that is new

to the average diaspora in Jamaica and you tell them about Bitcoin you're you're leaping over the regular fintech

and saying here use something even newer so um I would say that it's a very rough

environment in terms of talking to people about it people are very defensive about their money in general much less something they don't

understand about it that being said um two weeks ago I had the first uh

Bitcoin Meetup in Kingston um me and and a couple of co-workers different colleagues and these are like

leaders of Industry right we had a Dean of Business and educa in the University of the West Indies we had a couple

um people that are trying to build future fins like apps there we had remittance company owners there we had

um we had a bunch of people that were very interested in the in the space but they came entertainment you know digital

media we had a lot of people that were that were just interested in hearing what this was and it was a great conversation because I could tell that

even though they didn't know and even though they had their suspicions the fact that we came together as a a

coordinated meeting to try and talk about it without any you know motivation

without any without any ultimatums to not trying to get any money from them that opened up the conversation and that

made people ask the right questions you know like why is cryptocurrency um you know looked at so differently

across the world you know why isn't the government going to shut it down why is it not bad for the planet you know why

is it not sucking all the energy resources these conversations were enough being had in Jamaica for the

first time as far as I know and we're gonna have another one probably in June and hopefully it'll become a very common

thing so I'm hoping to change that that mindset change that theme in Jamaica and then

I also have a lightning wallet that I'm building in Jamaica called flash it hasn't been announced yet this might be

the first time I'm announcing it on on air but it's going to be a lightning wallet very dedicated to remittance

services so people who are using Western Union right now people are using MoneyGram who are getting seven percent

eight percent taken from them and having to go an hour or half an hour public

transportation to get it from a brick and mortar store should be able to use this service if we build it correctly to

do all of that in the palm of their hand and then use that Bitcoin in stores near

them instead of having to cash out so hopefully we get there um that's my goal probably within the next year to to

adopt that across Jamaica but the first thing to before that it can even happen has to be education people have to know

what they're using and understand that there are things out there that look like it but are not Bitcoin and that

education is going to protect them from what's happened in the past yes I love that that's just so inspirational and

you know this this answer I'm going to give you dread kind of appertains to inflation in Jamaica but before I

answered I asked that I want to talk about some of the things you said which I love um remittances I think is huge because

of course the Caribbean has a soft spot in my heart because you know my family is from there and I understand the

difficulty that people have with remittances right and a good example of that where you're talking about using a

lightning wallet or something that's going to layer on top of the Bitcoin protocol using a mobile device because

the cell phone is so ubiquitous in the Caribbean in Africa and certain parts of Asia even if people are poverty stricken

most people have a cell phone and it makes me think about the company Digicel which I'm sure is prevalent in Jamaica

it's definitely prevalent in the country my mom is from but I think about Digicel in the sense of imagine if a provider

like Digicel onboarded the lightning Network or with something like flash like your product is you know trying to

bring to Market that would would completely change the game and no longer would we have to worry about you know

packing a barrel with sugar and rice and you know sending people powdered milk to

the Caribbean if you live in America a lot of people from the Caribbean understand um the impact that that would have on

their friends and family if they could just quickly with the flash of cash app or strike or Flash for example send

someone a hundred dollars which converts into Jamaican money if it's in U.S currency that could feed someone for a

week in Jamaica you know so I think that what you're what you're doing with flash is huge because that that's an untapped

market and what I was going to ask you about inflation is and I don't know if the numbers are right so don't quote me

on this but I think the inflation in Jamaica is somewhere around 7.8 to 8 percent right which is crazy

and it's probably not the real price that's just the price that the government kind of puts out there for people to observe to not make them panic

and I wanted to know you know how open is Jamaica to bitcoin and do you think that the Central Bank in Jamaica would

even give Bitcoin a thought as far as legal tender so um I guess the first part of that answer is that they even

though the published rate is around seven or eight percent because they're trying to you know be on par with the US

I lived in Jamaica for two years throughout most of coven and

the real rate is more like 25 to 30 percent you know when you go to the grocery store that's your inflation rate

right and my groceries my grocery bill went up by 25 to 30 percent in the

things that I was buying and I wasn't really buying anything super fancy I was buying chicken bread cheese

juices you know like things that everybody buys 25 to 30 is your inflation rate in Jamaica and that

hasn't slowed down that's only sped up um has the government thought about it I

mean there has been there there's been man this is such a big conversation

because on one side there was one point in time where they actually bought some Bitcoin it was a small amount and you

know they did it for some kind of experiment um and this was like probably back in 2017 or 18. I don't know if they still

have it or not but the bigger thing is that they are pushing forward on the

digital asset path they have they are one of the first countries the first island in the Caribbean and one of the

first countries in the world to launch a cbdc they piloted the cbdc in 2019 or

2020 and now they've launched the cbdc they call it Jam decks Jamaicans might hear them call it Aki

coin because the logo looks like a little digital Aki but and it's cool marketing you know it's a marketing

gimmick but essentially the cbdc is just the digital version of the Jamaican dollar right and that is and it's run on

one database run by the government so it's a single point of failure and the government doesn't have very good track record in terms of keeping people's

information safe if you've heard about the covid um pii hacks that they had during

um they had a app yet to download and if you downloaded the app you you get um track and Trace you know where they make

sure that they know where you're going if you if you had covid but they would take your information your cell phone number your home address your you know

all the different personal details about you and that database got hacked so people's information is out there now

imagine that same government holding on to the keys for your cbdc all in one

place so that's one part but the other part is that it's just a digital dollar it's still subject to inflation so even

if you take it take cash out of people's hands and give them a digital version of it they still have 25 inflation so in my

opinion I don't think the government really gets it either that or it's the it's the

innovators dilemma right because the government is is surviving off of inflation inflation is what feeds

the government into you know being able to remain corrupt being able to remain bloated and being able to you know spend

the money that they don't have if they're not collecting taxes in an appropriate manner so the the the

governments um take on digital currency is just a digital way to keep on getting inflation

and that is the innovators dilemma because if you take away the thing that they're making money on their business

will fail it's the same thing that happened with blackberries something that happened with electric vehicles and and um traditional cars if these

companies will collapse in on itself if they try to do what they what the new

um the new entrant is doing what the disrupter is doing Uber is a good example taxis couldn't follow Uber right

because they that that model was just disruptive to it to The Medallion system when you buy a medallion you know for

however much money it costs that that's what you used to drive around but but now people can go on their phones and

call an Uber without their Medallion The Medallion system dies so it's same thing with the Jamaican

government I don't think that they're gonna ever openly accept Bitcoin um willingly I should say they won't

willingly accept Bitcoin because it's taking away the dollars they're making from inflation I think that they'll be

forced to use it eventually when the public accepts it and starts using it on

their own and that's my um thesis anyway and that's what I'm building towards I'm building towards a Grassroots movement

where people in Jamaica will realize that holding Bitcoin is better than

holding dollars being the being devalued by inflation and being devalued by by

you know um there's not just inflation but corruption as well and once you once you

look at the two and they realize that holding Bitcoin will will long term increase the quality of their life I

feel like in over the long term we're not talking about short term here people always think that next week or next

month or even next year they'll have some significant change in their life if they start using Bitcoin

no this is something that you want to have low time preference so that if you start using it with I'm not just talking

about holding it but using it as well this will improve your life because you realize that your value is being spent

better and you're making better decisions with your money because you don't have to get rid of it so quickly before it inflates on you that will

change their lives over time and I think when that happens and they start using more of that and less of the Jamaican

dollar the government will have no choice but to try and adopt it and take the losses on no inflation just so they

can survive yeah I I agree with that thesis I think that that's super super accurate and it kind of makes me really

think about how much of a delay people in the Caribbean or the Caribbean diaspora are going to have with the

government or governments I should say that plurally that can be somewhat pugnacious and then you have you know

one love movement rastafarianism all of these things that are kind of combating this quote-unquote proverbial capitalist

society that you know people have been so indoctrinated by and by you saying

that the government's going to be forced to use it it's like how long will that Force take will it take 20 years 30 years when all the other First World

countries have already been using digital currencies blockchain technology it just makes me think about you know my

friends and family in the Caribbean that want to have success and want to have Financial sovereignty it just kind of

sucks to see that these governments are still not understanding the potential for Bitcoin for not only

um the local communities in places like Jamaica but also just the Caribbean as a whole yeah and I would say first of all

praise be to the Most High um Rastafarian academically and I really

love the message that they send from their from the music all the way to the chanting it's always about truth truth

and rights as I say truths and rights and this is a bitcoiner's message right we believe in truth the blockchain is

truth you can't it's it's undeniable what happened 17 blocks ago you can't

change that and rights which is private property rights you know you can claim

that you have the keys to certain Bitcoin and that is yours your private property and no one can take it from you no one can confiscate it no one can stop

you from moving it no one can inflate it on you or devalue it you know these are things that are basically built into not

just the Rastafarian but the majority of the Caribbean culture right where we fight for freedoms and I'm hoping that

that is the the direction that we'll take this because I don't think we can take it a legislative Direction in the

career be in to get anywhere before to your point the U.S or the the entire first world gets there first for for the

the entire Caribbean and and not just the Caribbean but honestly the developing nations diaspora in general

for for us to get anywhere near you know even or ahead of the First World

countries we need to lean on our culture and understand that that fight for Freedom that we have this should

translate into a fight for property rights and digital age and that's how that's how we'll we'll be successful and

not be be trailing behind first worlds like we always have in the past and again you mentioned rastafari's and I'm

just curious to know like I know that there's you know a lot of villages maroon villages in Jamaica and they kind

of have a different approach to possibly the Jamaican government and just the capitalist Society like I said before

where it's like you have two sides to to places in the Caribbean where you have the righteous side and then you have the

side of people that are stuck in materialism and you know know Badness

and you know different type of subculture issues that they have that all kind of trickles down to poverty and

the Fiat system and over leveraging loans and Corruption right and I think that Bitcoin becomes that that spear

that kind of pierces through a lot of the financial issues that you see in the Caribbean and Dread I wanted to ask you

like what is your connection to the roster far-rise on the island as far as orange pilling Dam getting them involved

in Bitcoin kind of intertwining that into their culture or are they totally against it and they don't really believe

in you know digital currencies and they just want to keep the approach of the lifestyle and the culture that they currently use now

um it's a really good question um I would say I haven't really

done enough to try and connect with the elders and with even the current

um activists and the Rastafarian movement Rastafarian movement is it's it's really gotten smaller in terms of

its power compared to where it used to be where it used to be when they were actually actively fighting I mean if you know the history of the Rastafarian

movement it was that the British came and colonized Jamaica well they kind of took it from the Spaniards but when they

came to colonized Jamaica they they you know forced people into

their way of living right their way of working their way of living um some some people were enslaved and

and there was a certain group that decided to break off um they were actually led by one of the

deacons in the church and they broke off went to the hills and and um read books from Marcus Garvey and read books from

you know the Haile Selassie in Ethiopia and and chanted that as their their

mantras their way of life which was self-sustaining you know grow your your own food do your own work they actually

ended up trading with the colonizers at one point where they would trade different crafts and and goods and

formula farm farm produce for the Industrial Age things that you'll be

making in the in a colonized world of Jamaica but there was also a very big taboo where they were they're demon eyes

right they were looked as less than a man um if you had dreadlocks like this uh people would would jeer you and you

could get beaten in the streets if you're in the wrong place and even up until recently up until probably

less than five or ten years ago you couldn't go to school without cutting these off in Jamaica because they're

British Traditional School System right so so that is very deep in our culture

and there are a lot of divides to your point where you have the Maroons where the Maroons are also self-sufficient and

they have their own money they have a money called the Lumi which is actually at one point was stronger than the US

dollar because they they never inflated it I should tell you something they never inflated a dollar it's stronger

than the US dollar and they're a small town a small couple of small couple um

villages in Jamaica and then you have the Rastafarians that you know have their their own different

camps that they stayed out of the town and then they have the I hate call them

colonizers because it's on so crass but you know the rest of the country that went along with the British and people

had better lives in terms of you know convenience and quality of things that they were getting but they were pretty

much enslaved they were wage slaves at this point right because now they're working for their money but they're

still working nine to fives 97's hard work you know having to dress right act right speak right do the right things

follow the British laws and these are all kind of enemies in a

certain way on the on the island but to your point Bitcoin is made for enemies

like this is this is the thesis right where you have an incentive to have your

enemy use this money and it'll improve your enemy's life but because it allows to improve your life it's the one thing

that is the grand equalizer it's the one thing that's to grind equalizer for Bitcoin from a macro geopolitical level

you know China Russia everything going on right now with the brics Nations to the towns in Jamaica and across the

Caribbean and that uniting factor is what I really hope that we grasp onto and and use our culture to drive that

that uniting of enemies together so we don't have to get along but if we use the same money we'll all do better off

no matter what we believe and I'm hoping that that that um that crosses from from the Rastafarians

to the Maroons to the normal everyday working man in Jamaica to everybody and

and um to answer your question directly I haven't gone to any of the direct leaders in rastafarianism but I would

love to I wanted to talk to muta barucho I know that his um his nephew uh me and

him were on clubhouse A lot of times and we talked about making an interview happen but it hasn't happened yet so

move the Baroque if you're listening I'd love to have a conversation with you you know we can hash this out and tell me

what you think as far as I know Rastafarians are not against Bitcoin they are usually against a lot of the

the westernized technology that seems to be infiltrating culture like if it's if

it's eroding the culture and it's not a good thing usually but they're not against something that can help so I

think it's a good conversation that I would like to have at some point with with any Elder that's willing to to speak with me yes yes that would be

beautiful man and I I send the highest vibrations out that you know that your wishes come to fruition dread and um you

know I think that what you're doing right now will reverberate throughout space and time and I think that when people see my podcast in this episode

that they may be some type of call to action there someone might see this in Jamaica and say you know what let me

reach out to dread and start to build a conversation an organic conversation about Bitcoin and

um I've heard you speak at uh bit block boom of course and you talked about something that I really found profound

that I wanted you to kind of expound on dread which was kind of this call to action to Jamaicans

how we mentioned that there's different sectors of Jamaica and Jamaicans in

Jamaica and you know decide that people don't want to talk about when you go to Jamaica you go to a resort you don't get

to see you know certain parts of Kingston and the poverty and the crime and what would be your call to action to

those Jamaicans that you know have no hope or they don't think that things will ever change in Jamaica and don't

know anything about Bitcoin how do you turn Jamaica from this purported reggae

Island into Bitcoin Island yeah that's a really good question that's one I've been that's been on my mind for a long

time um as you know I have a podcast too that's one of Bitcoin we go around the

world interviewing different people from each country trying to find out their take on bitcoin and their people and I

found that same question for a lot of different of the a lot of the different developing nations where you you know

you have a bunch of people that hard workers you know good people and they want better for themselves and their

families but they're living hand to mouth you know they're living in very dire environments they're living in it

sometimes in cultures that are very violent I think you said it earlier like the Badness culture you know where where

the Badness is what is crazed and what is and what is what is glorified and to

to change someone's mindset from that to think about you know long-term investing in your

future using a technology you don't understand is a huge leap and um

the question still is on my mind that's kind of why I got into education to see if I could solve that question but how

do you how somebody that is that is only thinking about how they're gonna survive

for tomorrow and sometimes they don't even care if they survive for tomorrow as long as they get what they want today how do you

get that person to start caring about their future and

um it might seem straight because it came from American huddle who is just kind of an idiot on the internet but you

know it's slightly popular it's that you have to just look get them to love themselves first if I if we can have a a

movement where you know it could be through music it could be through education it could be through you know

entertainment it could be through um any different manner of ways to communicate but if we can get people to start caring

and loving themselves for the long term you know you're thinking about what they

want to be doing a year two years five years ten years from now that's where the conversation can be can can can move

into okay what do I need to do to get there what are my tools what is this tool what is money how can money be

improved these are the questions that you're only going to ask once they want to love themselves and want to do better

for themselves and that's a hard thing to solve that's that's much bigger than just Bitcoin so you know when I think

about myself as a as a freedom activist that's kind of where I lean into to say how can I get people to to care about

fighting for their freedom and then Bitcoin is just a tool to help that to happen and that's where I would go when

I because I go to a lot of um to your point Rastafarian

[Music] um communities there's Bob Marley Beach

down in wikiwaki there is um dub Club up in up in Skyline

um when you're driving near Garden town it's a different place where you can go and you'll see a lot of these communities and The Vibes are always

good high vibrations Good Vibes and these people are willing to have these deep conversations these reasonings

about these about these things and and I like to go there and have these conversations with people and see if we

can get the ball rolling um I'm just one person so I know my limitations but I would love it if you

know everyone else would continue to have these conversations because we're not going to get anywhere if we don't talk about it and if we don't figure out

that you know once we love it once we love ourselves and love each other love is kind of the key my podcast got

one love Bitcoin and it sounds kind of corny sometimes but it's it is the deepest truth there is you know you love

yourself you love your future self and you figure out how to take care of your future self

and from that everything else is just kind of a straight line forward in terms

of Education action and then results yes I couldn't have said that any better Drake

um you know this this has been one of those experiences for me just you know I've interviewed tons of people and like

I told you off air like you've been a person that I've wanted to reach out to and speak to for um weeks at this point so I'm super

excited to be here and have this conversation with you and I love that we kind of really dug into

um the aspects of what's going on in Jamaica what's going on in the Caribbean and just the mindset of people that have

been in generations of poverty and how Bitcoin because I personally believe

that um a lot of people's problems stem from money and once people can not worry

about paying their bills every day worrying about how much money they have I think that that opens them up to love

themselves and to have a different um thought process or an enlightening process where if you're not worrying

about eating like you said earlier and you know you're going to get food every day you know your light bill is going to be paid your water bill is going to be

paid because of the load time preference and you you kind of thinking Beyond five days and you're thinking 10 or 20 years

down the road how something like Bitcoin can really help you especially in a place like Jamaica where the price

points are so inflated um you can just tell that inflation has had a huge impact on the Jamaican dollar and it's

really just kind of corrupted the system where people are paying for things that are super overpriced I think that

Jamaicans listening to this podcast can definitely reach out to you and learn from you about how do we use digital

technology to better ourselves from all the trauma and past corruption that we've endured as a people not only in

the diaspora of Caribbean but in Africa Europe America all over the world Bitcoin is global there's no centralized

entity there's no Overlord this is just a protocol algorithm based technology and I just think that you know what

you're doing is super inspirational and I'm just happy and I continue to support you in ending your endeavors I

appreciate it man um I really really love to hear that because that sometimes times it feels

like it's a lonely road you know doing doing this kind of education and doing this kind of activism because there's

not many people that are doing it so I really appreciate you and everyone else that's that's that's shouting from the

rooftops just like I am yes dread I appreciate it man and um this Bitcoin conversation has been awesome I learned

so much about Jamaica about your story your journey and what you're doing now currently for bitcoiners in Jamaica and

across the globe but before we go can you give people your social media Handles in any future last words that

you might want the audience to know about yeah um so first of all thank you Dadu for

bringing me on I mean this show hopefully will will spread as far as we

wanted to because this is one of the few shows that is reaching out to more than just the little Bitcoin bubble so

appreciate your work for doing that um if you could reach out to me I'm usually on Twitter but not So Much

Anymore actually I'm a Noster now um but you can find all my information at onelovebitcoin.com that's one love

bitcoin.com that's my podcast website but also it has my Twitter and master

information and YouTube information um also if you're in Jamaica

um you can reach out because we have Bitcoin meetups there it's probably going to be on meetups.com when I

publish it but there's going to be a meet up there every quarter probably every month um later on this year

you can also go to lnflash.me for the lightning wallet I'm building um so if you're in Jamaica you can use

that too instead of Western Union and lastly uh honestly I always say different

things about how Bitcoin is great and everything but this time I'm I really want to talk about the Caribbean people

the Jamaican people the culture that that we know that we love but

it's not really fully understood across the world there is something special in the Caribbean that it's hard to explain

but if you're there you feel it The Soca the carnival the reggae the music the

food the people like there are people in Jamaica that that just have hearts of

gold and there there is a a certain I would call it a certain level of of Innocence still there even to this day

even with the Advent of you know the um cable and social media and all that

stuff that just kind of shows all these different thoughts in people's heads that that weren't there in the beginning

there's still a level of pure goodness across the Caribbean through

our culture that hasn't left us and I want people to harness that harness that

goodness harness that culture that we have in the Caribbean take a look at Bitcoin and see how those two are become

a superpower because I I truly believe that if people use the culture that we

have and with Bitcoin that Satoshi Nakamoto has created we could find

ourselves being you know the next Mecca the next Singapore the next place that

that is just uh an apex of prosperity as long as we're able to do the hard things

to get there it's not going to be a short road it's going to be a hard Road and there might be some dark times but

this is the road we want to take if we want to stop going down the path we are right now with high inflation high crime

and hopelessness so one love I love you guys all praise ja and you know I I hope

I see you somewhere in Jamaica soon or around the world Bobo dread ladies and gentlemen thank you for being on the

Bitcoin Source brother have a good one bless

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